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  Hello everyone

  by Lancashirelass in

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  i just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.

  i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.

  and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.

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  James Jack

  You are a little Tipsy, I like you already!
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  Circuit Overseers are putting their resume on LinkedIn? This is new?!

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  i am a bit surprised to see what appears to be current and in-good-standing circuit overseers putting their resumes on linkedin.

  www.linkedin.com/title/circuit-overseer.

  do you know any of these, and are they legit?.

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  James Jack

  Know John Graeff. Last I heard he was Preaching at The Port of Miami.

  I guess these men and women are looking to make a few bucks on the side.
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  Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

  by Dogpatch in

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  having problem pasting this...

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  If the 95% rate of Bethelites leaving JW's, how come we don't have more of them posting here? So far, I have found this thread very entertaining.
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  Have a pretty interesting story to tell.

  by Dexter in

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  2. experiences

  i am new to this site, was always told by my elder father if the site accidentally appeared on the comp screen it was satans doing.

  anyways, i am 28 y/m who had the unfortunate life of being the last of three kids to be born ins.

  my oldest sibling lasted about 8 years before she was d,f.

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  James Jack

  Tell me more, and please don't keep me waiting!

  Welcome, by the way!
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  Favorite & LEAST favorite CO's? DO's?

  by HereIgo in

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  some were humble, but their were a few pompous asses who thought they were gods gift to the org and acted like they were ceo's of a fortune 500 company...

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  James Jack

  Favorites, John Graeff, Jim Crosley, Jerk, Darrell Pickens
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  To all former Elders – what are your thoughts

  by Tallon in

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  if you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?

  how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?

  were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?

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  James Jack

  When I asked them to forgive me, both of them were good. They have moved on with their lives and are doing well. I guess I did them a favor!
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  By Way of Announcement, Darlene Jefferson Has Been Disfellowshiped

  by Cold Steel in

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  i was watching a jw video where the announcement was made of a young lady's being disfellowshiped, and it happened in a regular kh sunday meeting.

  this struck me as being a bit...cold.

  is this when the shunning begins?

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  I looked at the Elder's "Shepherd" book and the "OD" book. It makes no mention which Meeting the Announcement is to be made. However, only The mid week meeting has time allowed for local announcements(at the end). Blondie is right about the reasoning the Elders use for the time of the announcement. However, I recall a time when we rein-stated a person right before the Convention and the CO gave us permission to announce it on a Sunday Meeting, so he could have fellowship there with him.
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

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  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  Oh Yeah, Hook, Line, and Sinker?

  Now, struggling with the idea that I will be "Fertilizer" one day!!! "Oh, The Pain", (Spock on a Star Trek episode).
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  To all former Elders – what are your thoughts

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?

  how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?

  were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?

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  stuckinarut2an hour ago

  I've made it a point to apologise to any who I offended or caused upset to due to my self-righteous attitude I had as an appointed man.

  2 people that I DF'd(Teenagers), who are still out, I have apologized to for not helping them when they needed it the most.
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  To all former Elders – what are your thoughts

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were part of a judicial committee, and knowing what you know now, what was it like for you to sit on jc’s?

  how did you feel if someone was reproved or df’d?

  were you ever on a jc and you disagreed with someone being reproved or df’d and were overruled – how did you feel?

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  James Jack

  1) In a sick way, it was kinda of neat. You(me), is this very "Spiritually Strong" person, listening to the weaknesses of others, makes you feel elevated because "you are so strong" that you do not give in to temptation, like these weaklings! Then you here their confession, and You get to decide if they are worthy being around the rest of us "Spiritual Heavyweights". (over 100JC's & Appeal JC's)

  2) Once overruled by one of the most kindest Elders(later, him only to die in a plane crash on his way to KM School ), where another Elder's wife had a 1 year adulteress affair with a "worldly man". He was able to convince me and the other Elder not to DF her. We gave in to him. Later, the CO & DO voiced their disapproval with the JC. Looking back now, we made the right decision. Her husband supported and kept her as his wife and 20 years have passed by, and she has been rock solid as a JW.

  3) Upholding the BORGS policies was easy. We were trained(however slanted), to always have documented, a Scripture and or a WT publication as a reason given for your decision.

  4) Only once did another Elder butt heads with me on a decision. A Brother had been Reproved prior before, for a gambling habit. He never had given up the habit (from the last JC meeting) and kept it going for another 10 years. The other Elder felt he was "Repentant" this time, because he voluntarily confessed (he was good at hiding it) and said all the right things to the JC( Pray several times a day, reading the Bible daily, keeping up with all the publications, daily text, not missing meetings, etc.). Then I pulled out from the Congregation File, The notes from his JC 10 years ago and how he told that Committee the same exact things he told us. The result, he was DF'd. He was rein-stated a year later.